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Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:09 pm
by laotan
but I have never encountered another Taoist who is so quick to dismiss the writings or intensions of other Taoist or authors.
Perhaps you never encounter a real Taoist. As for the writtings of other authors I understand that you mean this Lin Yutang, that you love so much. I am sorry if I didn't share your love for your dear philosopher. I explained above what is my reason. I don't like to repeat myself.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:18 pm
by NonTien
If that is the case, I must be the LEAST critical - I believe it is better to gather as much information as possible and to sort them out in my own mind. If someone explains his interpretation of Taoist text and it does not correspond to my interpretation, I do not dismiss his thinking as wrong.

There are many roads that lead to Tao.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:34 pm
by laotan
NonTien wrote:If that is the case, I must be the LEAST critical - I believe it is better to gather as much information as possible and to sort them out in my own mind. If someone explains his interpretation of Taoist text and it does not correspond to my interpretation, I do not dismiss his thinking as wrong.

There are many roads that lead to Tao.
There are many ways that leads to tao, of course. But the thinking is influented by the Tao so you may recognize those who are Taoists from teir very way of thinking. In short, there are ways of reaching the Tao, and only one way of thinking in the "colour" of Tao. I don't need to meet someone in person to know he/she is or not a Taoist. I am not concern with his/her conduct or suits, I am concerning with the way he/she thinks.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:54 pm
by NonTien
[quote="laotan]There are many ways that leads to tao, of course. But the thinking is influented by the Tao so you may recognize those who are Taoists from teir very way of thinking. In short, there are ways of reaching the Tao, and only one way of thinking in the "colour" of Tao. I don't need to meet someone in person to know he/she is or not a Taoist. I am not concern with his/her conduct or suits, I am concerning with the way he/she thinks.[/quote]


Nor do I need to meet someone in person to know if they are a Taoist. And even if I disagree with some of your ideas, there is no doubt in my mind that you are absolutely a student of Tao.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:59 am
by Dean
Whatever happened to, NonTien, anyway? It seems like he has some really wild ideas. :lol:

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:19 am
by laotan
Dean wrote:Whatever happened to, NonTien, anyway? It seems like he has some really wild ideas. :lol:
He asked for cancellation of his account. He was unable to support his oppinions and left. This happens almost anytime with people with "wild ideas" as you said. In fact he had no experience with the Taoism but that received through some wrong books. For example he stated that Confucius would have like to study Taoism instead of I Ching as he declared. This is a huge mistake.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:29 am
by Dean
Yes, there is a lot of mis-information out there. I've bought some books recently off amazon that I wish I had never gotten.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:01 pm
by laotan
Dean wrote:Yes, there is a lot of mis-information out there. I've bought some books recently off amazon that I wish I had never gotten.
This is why we have created this forum hoping to clear up the things.

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:58 am
by laotan
laotan wrote: I am not concern with his/her conduct or suits, I am concerning with the way he/she thinks.
Now I understand that this sentence may confuse some. Indeed I am not interested in how a Taoist adept behaves as the behaviour of the adept is not imposed by rules. I know people would hardly admit this. They think that Taoism is kind of another religious system and they need to apply on it all they already know about a religious system: rules, ceremonies, food restriction, sexual restriction and more.
The Taoist adept doesn't need to follow such rules! This is because he is following the Tao. It is really that simple!

Now, when we meet someone who wrote pages about Taoism and social life, Taoism and family, Taoism and health and so forth, we know he is not a Taoist but a pantheist or moralist who pretend to be a Taoist! A lot of Christians wrote such foolish things about Taoism! This explains why people are so confused...

Re: Mis-information (FYI)

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:27 am
by bradford hatcher
Hey guys- This is a misquote
These statements have not been found to be true:

What I said was
Students of the Book of Changes, the I Ching, or the Yijing as it is now
spelled, will at some time be called upon to believe one or more of the
following claims. All eight of these statements are False:

Bradford